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-Reinventing the wheel- Carson Hill is the inventor and developer of the first mass produced pneumatic tattoo machine, operated on air, not electrical motors or coils. For thousands of years tattooing was done by hand around the world, it's meaning and method varied across the globe. Electrical coil machine tattooing at the turn of the twentieth century brought the craft of tattooing to the modern day , indeed many well respected tattooists are of the opinion that electric tattooing was the catalyst that brought tattooing to evolve from a craft to a contemporary art form. So I took a little time to Chat with Carson Hill about this latest evolution in the science of tattooing. DM: So Carson, you started playing with pneumatics at a young age, were you one of those kids that took everything apart and tried to put it back together? CH: I was exactly that. I think my dad didn't know what to do with me at times, so he would give me some old radio equipment or electronic device of some type, that I could destroy if need be. I spent the better part of my childhood dissecting anything electrical or mechanical that I could get my hands on. I don't know why really, other than I enjoyed experimenting and testing whether or not I could reassemble what I had disassembled, and make it work again. That was fun for me. I also enjoyed building things. Sometimes airplane models, sometimes model houses, once I built my dog a doghouse, you know, what kids do. Assembly has always been somewhat interesting to me. The only pneumatics experience I really had, before Neuma, was the pneumatic dremmel that I used at a machine shop I worked at, for maybe a year, when I was about sixteen years old. Of course, the tiny air tool fascinated me quite a bit, and eventually the fascination led to a union between two fascinations of mine. Once tattooing devices came into my spectrum of thought, soon the two thoughts met, thereby creating an idea.
CH: I was on my way into work, with my mentor Jim Hayek. I was still an apprentice at the time, maybe 6 months into a year and a half long apprenticeship. We were driving down the freeway, talking about human potential, and somehow, I had this understanding that if you could think something, you could create it, with some hard work and determination. I spit out the notion of creating pneumatic tattoo machines as an example to Jim that anything can be re-invented to (hopefully) improve on the current design, and that essentially, that's what we all do. I have read before that there are two types of inventions, those which are 'original', and those which are 'modified' or upgraded ideas which already exists. My thought is that no invention escapes the inspiration from some outside source, whether it be just a component of the invention or the whole idea. The rolling stone became the wheel, and so on. DM: You mentioned you had to work at the shop by day and then go home to work on your idea, keeping it to yourself at first, what were those days like?
CH: was fired from the shop shortly after the patent cleared and I told everyone at the shop what I had done. I'm not entirely sure why they fired me. At the time, I felt that it must have had something to do with the pneumatic machine, being that things changed a lot for me after it. I'm not sure the owner of the shop really appreciated what I was doing, and I think it may have concerned him a bit. The reason, as I was told over the telephone, that I was fired was because I was disrespectful, according to the shop owner. I can hear him now "Stupid fuckin kid!" Later I was told it had something to do with my having left a mess in the back room, who knew? But it didn't devastate me, it really gave me the push I needed to begin facing the world, and I had no choice but to proceed with my Neuma endeavor. Since then I have had to find my own way in the tattoo world. I have tattooed from my home studio(s) for more than half my career, having only worked full-time in 2 street shops. I began exploring the tattoo convention circuit in order to meet some people who I would be very happy to have try my machine. I have remained in the convention circuit as much as possible since then. Since I was fired, I have worked with or near some of the best tattooers in the country. I would have to say that being fired was the greatest gift that shop owner could have given me. DM: What was the process of going from your idea to production, how did you end up getting a bunch of engineers involved in tweaking the design? CH: Ok - It started with the conversation with my mentor. Then I took the idea and all the cash I could get my hands on to an engineer/product designer, who made me a working (plastic) prototype. This was way before Neuma even had a name. (Neuma in Latin means "spirited" or "air powered"). I used that prototype for a period while I saved money to have one made in metal, and a bit better than the first. The results from this prototype were quite pleasing, although several small changes needed to take place. DM: There are a bunch of talented tattooists using your machines now, what do you see as the primary benefit of using it compared to the traditional coil based machines? CH: Well, I'm not sure that there is a "primary" benefit, but rather a compilation of benefits to using Neuma. Alone, each of these benefits may not make that big a difference, but compiled they do. Neuma allows you to let go of technical stuff, simply stated. Get down to the nitty gritty of what tattooing is and consistently provide good results. The fact that they cant be tuned means that they always run the same, and once an artist has become accustomed to the way they work, the rest is downhill from that point. They are super lightweight (only 1.5 oz) which means almost no fatigue from any kind or amount of tattooing. They are very easily maneuverable which allows for easily getting the desired effect or result. They are also autoclavable, which is a paramount feature in the Tattooing Industry, and now that we are using disposable air hoses, everything all the way back to the workstation is either autoclave-able or disposable, bringing the possibility for cross-contamination to an absolute minimum. They are durable also, they CH: I have a few still. I'll keep them because they were a part of my life, and they helped pave the way for me to explore. I don't use them anymore, but I intend to keep them anyway. DM: Who are some of the artists using your gear now? CH: There are a growing number, and I'm impressed with all the amazing work I've been seeing out of them. Its really amazing being able to see just how many great artists are out the using them, and just doing great tattoos. Some people who are using them are: Mike Devries, Mike Demasi, Mario Rosena, Nathan Kostechko, Nikko Hurtado, Johnny Berrios and now all the guys at Off The Map Tattoo, I have gotten Guy Aitchison and Nick Baxter and Mike Cole to use them quite a few times, Dee Dee Seruga, Larry Brogan, Elmo, Dan Plumley, Roman Abrego, and really, I wish I could mention my entire rolodex here, because there are so many artists out there using them, and I'm amazed at how many of them are truly inspiring and visionary artists. I also have some more targets that I will hopefully have the chance one day to get them to tattoo me with Neumas... To check out the Neumas online go to neumatattoomachines.com Back to the Articles Page
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